Illegals in the United States are no good to our country. The don't pay taxes, they have no insurance, they are a danger to society, etc. What do I do if an illegal crash my car and I get hurt? I need to have very expensive insurances just to cover myself. It is so expensive alone. I am pro amnesty to get all this people legalized and into the system like any other American!!!!

Jennifer

we can't pay insurances because we don't we can affort it cause we make minum wages
we can verly survive with our salary we are at the risk of cops cause we have no drivers licence at risk of inmigration,risk of haters, and still have to work unproctected by any law
but we have to work for cheap so you can have fresh fruits and vegetables in your table for low price
is not your faul that we don't make more money but you are not the right person to judge, without knowing the truth.
I wish you were in our position to see how we get descriminated and hated by people like you
just like jesus was by his own people.

hope one day people like you really understand and live our fears of everyday.
god bless us all

Illegal immigration is destroying this country. It's sad when the spouse (with a crystal clean background) of and active duty military member is being hassled by a discriminating consular's section of a U.S. Embassy when they are trying the get their family together legally. If she were from south of the border illegally, it would be easier to get her stuff done. THAT'S SAD. Illegal's are TERRORIST and should be treated as such.

We ARE NOT terrorists. Our foreheads are not stamped Bin Laden as our shirts have explosives beneath you fool! And we DO WANT to pay our taxes! How many illegals do I see on Hollywood Blvd begging for money? NONE!!! They are US citizens too lazy and drugged up to utilize what their social security number is for.

Mexicans come here desperate for asylum, we all have our reasons..... and many work sweatshop hours cleaning Americans poo from toilets and blood from bedding. So how dare you judge.

Yes an illegal should not be driving, it is true, but do not assume all do that, seems to me some serious education is needed here upon a few of you. There is life outside of America and Americans do bad things too!!!!!

Unless you are native you are no more American than the rest of us.

All we ask is for a social security number so that we can contribute, and instead get penalised for taking a risk. I am not a criminal, in a gang, a drug addict, I am an educated woman from the UK just trying to be legal so I CAN give back to this country. But I deplore the ignorance on this site!

DITTO!!!! I am so proud and glad that someone can tell it like it is! I am a citizen married to an illegal and I dont consider my family terrorists, we struggle. My husband obeys laws and tries. Yes he is illegal but @ Least we dont smuggle drugs we dont write books about killing God or children we dont have firearms we dont judge the homeless we dont judge the white the black we live our lives to the best we can we work and use or money to pay rent, phone, utilities, food. We buy our kids clothes, toys, vacation. That is American!! Living to get by, Living and obeying our laws, He doesnt have someones Identity, He doesnt cheat the tax system anymore than the rich, upperclassmen do. We love each other, our children, our country!!! God Bless all of You Even those that doubt the good hearts of the Immigrants that grace our country!!!

I find it sad when any race of people are treated LESS THAN, meaning less than or less valuable than another race. I am white and live in a border town and have great empathy for the migrant people coming from Mexico looking for a better life here, many die crossing looking for a better life and they are vulnerable to many things because it is too risky for them to alert authorities when they are robbed or beaten, because they are "illegal" they are afforded no rights.
I cannot understand why just because someone is undocumented they can be called terrorists??? We have had our own terrorists in this country remember Timothy McVey?? Yes it would be great if they could all afford to pay and wait to come her legally and it would be great if there could be a way to have a background check done on anyone coming to the US to weed out the criminals because we have plenty of our OWN WHITE criminals here already.
Until you walk in someone else's shoes, don't be too quick to assume that just because they come from other country, have a different skin color and speak differently that they are all bad and would not contribute to our society.
Sassy

WOW!!!!! I was pretty sure I would be heavily criticized for my heated reply to this topic. I am thrilled that there is an understanding and educated society who support us in this ludicrous situation.

It is simply horrid living in fear when your only crime is worshipping and appreciating a country enough to give up OR risk everything, just to be able to live and work here.

I would not be stealing an American citizen’s job if I were allowed to work here as I have acquired a degree of specialty and yet it seems im not allowed to get a green card sponsor now I am over my VISA. The real criminal in my situation is my American husband who I was only married to for 5 days before he walked out on me taking all my money and life savings leaving me homeless, hungry and ILLEGAL!

I was happy to go through the immigration progress but he would not gather his paperwork and I guess in the end he thought it would be a lot easier and far more profitable to just walk out on me. We, or at least I, married through love, at that point I did not care for a green card but we were inseparable. Mind you, I was supporting him! Then real life happened and he bailed.
My money was nearing an end and he would finally have to support us, albeit only a few months until a temporary green card arrived for me. He broke my heart because I trusted him and was head over heels for him.

Now I cannot afford my flight fare home. I have a life here now too I mean it’s been months! all my friends, my new culture.......I would hate to leave today. I feel it criminal that I should even have to. Authorities will not help me because we did not share an apartment, only a hotel room. We are still married; apparently as an illegal I cannot even divorce the fraud. He will not divorce me for some crazy reason, and now he seems to have vanished off the face of the earth, as in he no longer works where he did in May when we were married.
Frankly I don’t know what to do! HE is NO GOOD TO AMERICA. This sort of thing is embarrassing to the country surely??????
And He is the ILLEGAL in his behavior surely????????
The TERRORIST is him because he has made America have yet another illegal and put terror into my well being, surely?????????

I do not want to go to authorities and say here I am, hold me in detention, deport me, and never allow me back! That is preposterous! This is not a civilized solution. There must be something more that can be done. This OTM (Other than Mexican Aliens)enforcement initiative to REMOVE, sounds like a sadistic witch hunt and it is scary and each case should be heard individually because I did not choose to be illegal and would do anything in my power to eliminate the "illegal" part from my name. It sickens me that I am in such a predicament. That if or when I go home, all my emergency money in the UK has gone on supporting me here because I am not allowed to work, so I will be homeless and hungry, and it would take 3 weeks to get state benefit- an idea that I deplore, and anywhere from a month to 6 weeks for my first salary IF I managed to get a job the moment I landed!!!!
I have no family back home. All my friends are here, in fact my family is also here- MY AMERICAN HUSBAND!

People are too quick to judge, seeing the word illegal and making an uneducated conclusion to the negative, instead of hearing stories like this, that actually even if I do say so myself, is terribly, terribly sad. Because not only did he break my heart, steal from me and make me illegal, he completely messed with my head when I found out that in the short time we were together and then married, he had a girlfriend on the side! Perhaps he married me so as not to marry her who knows, who can speculate? All I know is im being punished now, I was punished then, and I will continue to be punished until the day comes when I am in a country that I am allowed to live and work in, and travel around and be normal and free again.

And this is a very slow and painful death.

Perhaps FlyFisher would like to find the capital to send us home if we wish to go, or to pay for our attorney and paper fees so that we can stop terrorizing him?

I am so sorry for what you have had to endure. I am truly appreciative of you, and your experience albeit that you had to suffer, it is experiences and people like you that can help this prejudice society that lurks among us to wake the @$%*! UP!!!! And see that illegals are humans too and we that suffer experiences like yours and others who are out there trying to do what is right, dont deserve to be denied fair treatment, rights, and a Life here in the U.S. GOD BLESS YOU!~!~
Squiroz

I'm sorry also for what you have had to go through. The prejudce is crazy and to brand all people that come to this country as criminals is crazy. We do have a segment of Americans that are against anyone that come here "illegally" but just know that there is also a great many Americans that do care about migrants and do understand the obstacles these people have to go through.
Sassy

Perhaps if you would have read what I was saying before you replied, you would have understood what I was saying. Your case is quite different than what I am talking about. I'm talking about those that cross our borders illegally and become a burden to society. It's these things that are making hard on the people that try to come here legally. In your situation, I have no issues, other than your husband did you wrong. I do have a problem with the hassles I am having because of illegal immigration. I have been supporting 2 households for 18 months, on a military salary (which is not really that much), all because I am trying to bring my wife and step-daughter here legally, and supporting them in high cost of living areas (California and Japan). Oh, and by the way, I can't even claim that on my taxes, unless my family is from Mexico or one of 5 other countries in central and south America. Terrorist are not only those that blow things up, they can be social and economic terrorist, and I point to the latter in my previous post. There are legal avenues for asylum and they should be taken. I have now problems with people coming here legally. I do feel for you in your situation. If people would actually read before getting all huffy and puffy, they may understand mine. I have served this nation for almost 20 years now and feel I am getting the shaft. It should no take 18 + months for a service member to get his family here, when all the legal immigration requirements are met. I have even had my congressman contact the embassy, to no avail.

flyfisher,
You are right that the military pay is not much, my son just retired last last year from the military, and you would think that you would not have to go through so much trouble and jump through so many hoops to bring your wife and step-daughter to this country. In the case of illegal immigration, do you really think our goverment wants to stop it? If they really wanted to they would have. It is like with one hand they are saying no and with the other they are saying "come on in". The people of Mexico for the most part are poor, if they were to come here legally it would take years and also more money than they have. For them to come here illegally they have to sell everything they own to pay off the coyotes that bring them across, if they are deported they go back to nothing. If they were not so desperate do you think they would risk their lives to cross over to this country?
I personally wish they could get a work permit to come here and work and be able to go back to their families, but if you lived in a country and you could not get ahead and your family was hungry, and you could find work in another country and be paid by the hour instead of by the day what would you do? To tell them to change their goverment is like telling us to change ours...fat chance.
Sassy

and to add, if they are caught here illegally and deported even for a first offense they are branded a felon even though their only crime may have been to cross here illegally looking for a better life. I don't know what part of the country you live in, but unless you live in a border town you really do not see the ugly side of how many of these people are treated.
Sassy

I just think it is a fascinating topic and that had I known in advance how ***BANNED WORD*** the immigration system now is then I would have become an immigration attorney and make a killing in this so-called Land of Opportunity!

I can see why immigration has to have so much red tape, we would all be the forst to complain were a terrorist (in the Universal meaning of the word) to be allowed to live in our country, given the chance to research and plan to blow us all up. So there must be intense scrutiny and security measures of course.

On the same hand, many innocents suffer at the hands of alleged "keeping out the criminal illegals", and im sure its the same in my country to a degree and elsewhere in Europe. Bin Laden blew it for us all!

I think whether an illegal or US citizen is sponging of Welfare one should be just as mad about it. Taxes all over the world pay for the desperate and sadly, the fraudelents. How can one know who is truly genuine?

This is such a broad topic I do not even think it can be analysed any longer, reason being every case is individual. Not all Mexicans sponge or show the Victim card, all the Mexicans I have met since being here do get off their arses and work and pay tax, albeit under a fake social security. Their dedication to survival and amnesty means that they want to contribute to paying taxes.

Not all one party can be labelled under the one name and boxed the same, just because somebody happens to be Mexican and illegal does not equate to suspicious goings on, criminal activity or laziness. I think the US seriously need to get over this anti-Mexican mode. I was disgusted with the jokes and the opinions I heard about Mexican society when I first arrived. It seems that just because many are here illegally its a new form of condomed racism, its todays LEGAL KKK!

I just find this topic draining, its exhausting because there seems to be no answers other than suffering our battles until they end in whichever way.

Immigration Attorneys & Paralegals......all seem to be dollar hungry pessimists here. We are merely bouncing off one and others speculations and sufferings. I dont want to be negative.

I guess I will wait to either find a solution that does not become one more broken promise from this "land of dreams", or wait to be arrested, thrown in detention and then transported home like a TERRORIST knowing I face bigger punishment at the other end!

Its crazy. But thank you all for your kind comments. I wish you all luck in your quest to soundly be allowed to exist and pay your taxes and sleep peacefully without fear in this gigantic priveledged land we call America!

Mel, you wrote a very articulate post. I guess America is the better place to live, at least that is what we have been told all of our lives. I love my country but do not always agree on how things are handled. The American Dream, there are plenty of Americans waiting for that dream too. I guess I don't think all people should be painted with the same brush.
Not everyone from another country whether they come here legally or illegally are terrorists or like you also pointed out are not sponging off of the US. We have a welfare system here that should have been changed long ago, it should have been to help people get on their feet, not to keep them on welfare for generations of which we have now. I deplore the racist mentality of a lot of Americans. We first had it with the Native Americans and basically took their land. Then we had the African Americans and slavery, although things have improved there is still a segment of the population that is racist.
Now we have the Mexican population and there again racism raises it's ugly head. I don't know why people cannot be judged on as human beings. Who are we as Americans to judge another group of peopler??? I know I feel that I have benefited from getting to know people from other countries and I have met some truly wonderful human beings. It is no wonder that this country is hated by other countries. We have no business trying to force our beliefs on another country, we have plenty of our own problems here. I wish that other countries knew that not all Americans are hateful and do have compassion.
I hope things work out for you and you receive help. If I come across a migrant in the desert I will offer them food and water, that is the humane thing to do. It is not my job to judge them. I cannot offer them transportation as I would then be committing a felony. We had two college students that were convicted of transporting an "illegal" for medical care and they were looking at prison time, thank God that was changed and they were not sent to prison. It would be wonderful if
everyone would not be so judgemental and get to know someone before they judge them.
Sassy

I think if they made the whole immigration process EASIER, FASTER and CHEAPER, it would help. I think it is sad when some people come here for the safety of their lives or just to make a better living, they have to hide, work permits should be alot easier to obtain than they are. I just got off the phone with the U.S.(useless) Embassy to try and speed up my case, mainly because my wife's mother (lives in the states) is terminally ill and according to here doctor may lucky to see the first half of 2008, and got no help are inkling of care on their part. This so called great country and fair government could give a s**t as long as they get their cushy, high paying jobs. "A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE", that's the biggest load of B.S. I have heard in a long time. All I can really say to them is I hope they sleep well at night and have a great holiday, becuase I won't. Unfortunately, I can't take the time off to go spend with my family, like I'm sure they can and will. I'm basically at the point of dropping my retirement papers and moving to another country that treats people better than people are treated here.

I read another post on the racism in the states, I honestly think alot of that stems from the media. They need to have something to report on other than the war. I have traveled and lived in many places around the world and wish I would have stayed overseas.

The Immigration system here is broken and unfair. It really needs to be fixed, and fixed soon. I am truly disheartened and disappointed by these government agencies, as you may be able to tell. I hope for the best, but expect the worst. Good luck to you all, I really hope things change for the better, and fast.

Flyfisher,
I don't understand why they are making things so difficult for you, it seems so unfair. You would think that they could make an exception in your wife's case considering the illness with her mother.
I agree with you that the media needs something to divert from the war.
I hope things work out soon for you and your family. There are a lot of things that need fixing in this country that is for sure. I along with you hope things change for the better and fast.
Sassy

Im a touch dissapointed....id rather hoped Jennifer r the instigator of this whole topic may have had an opinion on the matter? I guess its not so easy to comment against such intellect and valuable arguments of opposition, backed up by evidences!

My opinion of FlyFisher is somewhat warmer now than it first was haha.

Her English actually sounds like its not her first language, or perhaps thats the education system of today. I wouldnt be surprised if she is from over the border herself and just because she is fortunate enough to be here and not be illegal...its so typical of others to turn on their own when they have it good themselves!

After thought;

It makes me laugh to think that 75% of uninsured and undocumented adults are working full time, thus prepared to pay taxes to the US Government. Compared to only 57% of uninsured US citizens.

In other words illegals are off their butts and doing something good for the country, and the bums of America dont even do anything for their OWN country! But moan about illegals no doubt.

Nearly 4 in 5 of Californians uninsured population are US citizens!

(Sources found at ; http://www.healthpolicy.ucla.edu/pubs/file..._FS_032807.pdf)

So to the haters on here; we are NOT the ones sponging of your taxes!

Mel,
I agree with your post. The major thing about hate groups is ignorance, to take any group of people and brand them all the same is just plain ignorance. There are people that will tell you that the Mexican people have a lot of money is that were not so untrue that would be almost laughable. There are many hispanic people that have crossed over and will not seek medical assistance for fear of being turned in, so not all mexican people are taking advantage of our health care. Then you will hear how much the US has done for Mexico through NAFTA, that is also pathetic. We sold the Mexicans seeds for corn and they did have a bumper crop, but only for the first year as the seeds were sterilized and would not reproduce.
If there were not so many hate groups in this country we would no longer have the KKK. There are undesirable people from every race in this country including born & bred Americans that take advantage of the system and have for generations.
How can we ever hope to have world peace if we cannot even have it in our own country?
Sassy

There is s much talk about the undocumented illegals. But how we’d call people who trying to enter this country trough perfectly legal channels, a fake marriage, for example..
I met a woman online, fell in love when she visited me in few months, I went to meet her family to Monterrey, Mexico, then she visited me again and we decided to get married, presumably, on basis of mutual love. We started the immigration procedures. Then something made me suspicious, and I installed the special software that registered everything that she was doing on PC, and to my horror it turned out that she was scamming from the very beginning of our relationship just to get a green card. When confronted she denied everything, but after I told her that I have a proof of her scam on Pc, she left in a few days not saying good buy. Beside all the expenses now I have also to pay for the divorce proceedings since she does not care about her marital status. I guess, no one can be protected in situations like this. Well, hopefully this particular person, Monica Perez Sanchez from Monterrey, Mexico would never be able to repeat the same affair with someone else.

Howdy all,

Hope everyone had a great holidy, mine was about as good as can be expected. Update on my wife and step-daughter's case--she had a preliminary interview on the 10th of Jan and was basically called a liar and told her birth certificate was fake (the same one the USCIS and NVC has). She called me after she left the interview crying and mad as hell, which I don't blame her. We have been completely honest, cooperative and patient through out this whole process. I talked to the person at the embassy that interviewd her (kept my cool) and was treated like a piece of dirt. The sad thing is this certain embassy has a reputation for rampant discrimination, and stupid me, I had faith in the govt when we started this process. I have contacted my Congressman (3rd time), my Senator, and the Assistant Secretary of Consular Affairs, Visa Services (reports directly to the Sec of State), still waiting on a reply from my Senator, but got replies from the other 2--siding with the embassy. It's a sad day when our government officals are blind or don't care about blatant discrimination by government employees. My wife is not the first person I know that has had these problems with this embassy. Unfortunatley, I placed my trust in a government that is blind unless you are rich or famous. I feel like I have wasted 20 years of my life, willing to give it for this so called greatest nation. We continue the process, however, look at other countrie to reside in. I am embarrassed to put on a uniform everyday or even associate myself with this country. Things need to change and change fast. This whole situation has given me new outlook on the immigration system and so call greatest nation.

flyfisher,
I'm so sorry for what you and your family are going through and to be honest, I don't understand why you and your wife are being treated like this. This is normally how they treat people that migrate here illegally, but it sounds like you and your wife have done everything they have asked. I don't understand why they won't help you, have they given you any reasons for the tactic they are taking?
If I remember right your wife is from Korea (correct me if I'm wrong) and if she has all the documents and you are a member of service, it seems terribly unfair. I don't know how it would work with you being in the military, but maybe if you got your problem out to the news media it might help, you know the sweaky wheel thing). With you being in the military I don't know how that would work, not sure what your restrictions are.
I can't blame you for wanting to move to another country, you know in a lot of ways we have it better than others, but for all the ones wanting to come here for the "AMERICAN DREAM" this country is full of Americans that would like to achieve the
"AMERICAN DREAM" whatever that is. Just know that the American People appreciate your service to this country even if we all don't believe in everything the goverment wants us to believe.
I do wish you the best and hope you will keep us posted on how things are going for you, it might even help someone else.
Best Wishes
Sassy

Kodin,
I'm sorry you were taken advantage of for a green card. I'm sure you are not the first nor will be the last that will have that happen to them.
Will you have to go to Mexico for the divorce or were you married in the states? Is it possible for you to get an annulment
if you were married for a short time? If you were to tip off the INS she may not be able to do this to someone else.
Sassy

Good evening,

My wife is actually from the Philippines and a permanet resident of Japan. The tatics our embassy uses over there a basic discrimination. I have many co-workers that have been stationed there, and it is a well known issue with the embassy. It's funny, the birth certificate they are implying is fake, is the same one sent to the USCIS, the same one we used when we got married, and the same one she used for her residency over there. I find it funny, I actually have a co-worker that married a Japanese (tourist visa waiver) and he had her fly over as a tourist (which is illegal in itself) about a week after he got back to the states, just to avoid going to that embassy because of the reputation they have. I have gotten nowhere with any government agency as of yet. I will be talking to the legal office on base this week to make sure it is ok to go to the media (election year, you know...lol). My congressmen and senator's are up for re-election this year (won't get my vote). Hopefully, I won't have go to the media, but it's looking like that's my only choice. I figure if the Asst. Sec, a congressman, and a senator can't do nothing, why waste money I don't have on a lawyer. I really think the media is a better bet, both national and international. Thanks for listening....

FF

Would it be different if you were not in the military? I don't understand the discrimination whether she is a citizen of the phillipines or of Japan. I'm sure no one is going to want you to talk to the media, but what is left that you can do?
It is an election year and naming names might work to your betterment. Would any of your coworkers be willing to share their experiences with the media? If it were brought out in the open it might change a lot of things, most Americans are tired and unhappy about how our servicemen are being treated. Remember when all h*** broke loose after the media got word of how servicemen were being treated in VA hospitals?
If nothing else works I think I would just retire and live where you want.
Wishing you the best and post so we know how you are doing.
Sassy

They should have a law that "when your in, your in" and "when your out, stay out"?

I feel that referring to people as "illegal" is problematic. No human being is "illegal", being alive and present are not crimes. People are undocumented, not illegal. What we need are reforms in the system so that a) UNDOCUMENTED citizens may take part and make active contributions to American society and b)American society and government can take advantage of the cultural and economic contributions these individuals make.

I think reform is needed, but I don't agree with your statement that undocumented people are bad for this country.